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Jon Mooallem is the author of "American Hippopotamus," a story included in Love and Ruin, the new Atavist Magazine collection. Buy your copy today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ezra Klein the editor-in-chief of Vox. “I think that if any of these big players collapse, when their obits are written, it’ll be because they did too much. I’m not saying I think any of them in particular are doing too much. But I do think, when I look around and I think, ‘What is the danger here? What is the danger for Vox?’ I think it is losing too much focus because you’re trying to do too many things.” Thanks to MailChimp, Casper, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @ezraklein Klein on Longform Vox [01:00] The Ezra Klein Show [2:00] The Weeds [2:45] Ezra Klein’s Blog [5:00] "Jesse Eisenberg on Jewish humor, writing lessons, and interrogating strangers" (The Ezra Klein Show • Jun 2016) [8:45] Videos on Vox [11:15] Wonkblog [16:00] "If you are losing faith in human nature, go out and watch a marathon" (Washington Post • Apr 2013) [21:30] Matthew Yglesias’s Blog [23:45] What It Takes: The Way to the White House (Richard Ben Cramer • Vintage Books • 1993) [25:15] Ezra Klein’s Washington Mo

Malcolm Gladwell is a staff writer at The New Yorker. His new podcast is Revisionist History. “The amount of criticism you get is a constant function of the size of your audience. So if you think that, generously speaking, 80% of the people who read your work like it, that means if you sell ten books you have two enemies. And if you sell a million books you have 200,000 enemies. So be careful what you wish for. The volume of critics grows linearly with the size of your audience.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode.   @Gladwell Gladwell.com Gladwell on Longform [00:15] Malcolm Gladwell on the Longform Podcast [00:15] Revisionist History [08:30] "Episode 01: The Lady Vanishes" (Revisionist History • Jun 2016) [08:30] "Episode 03: The Big Man Can’t Shoot" (Revisionist History • Jun 2016) [08:30] "Episode 02: Saigon, 1965" (Revisionist History • Jun 2016) [10:30] "Hulk Hogan v. Gawker: A Guide to the Trial for the Perplexed" (The New York Times • Mar 2016) [19:30]

Ellis Jones is the editor-in-chief of VICE Magazine. “I’m just not an edgy person. You know what I mean? I think I am a nice person. I think VICE Magazine reflects the qualities that I want to have or think that I have or that my team has. The magazine would be terrible if I tried to make edgy content ... people would just see right through it. It wouldn’t be good. Thanks to MailChimp and EveryLibrary for sponsoring this week's episode. @ellisjones [00:15] "RNC 2016" (Justin Peters • Atavist Magazine • Jul 2016) [6:45] Balls Deep (VICELAND • 2016) [15:15] Motherboard [17:45] "Inside the Unregulated Chinese Hospitals That Make Men Impotent" (R.W. McMorrow • VICE Magazine • May 2016) [21:00] VICE (HBO • 2016) [21:00] VICE News [21:15] Dos & Don’ts Archive at VICE [22:00] "Is Vice Getting Nice?" (Carrie Battan • New York • Apr 2015) [25:45] The Prison Issue (VICE Magazine • 2015) [26:15] "How the Killing of a Trans Filipina Woman Ignited an International Incident" (Meredith Talusan • VICE Magazine • Feb 2015)

David Remnick is the editor of The New Yorker. “I think it’s important — not just for me, but for the readers — that this thing exists at the highest possible level in 2016, in 2017, and on. That there’s a continuity to it. I know, because I’m not entirely stupid, that these institutions, no matter how good they are, all institutions are innately fragile. Innately fragile.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, EveryLibrary, and Igloo for sponsoring this week's episode. Remnick on Longform [2:00] This week's New Yorker cover [5:45] "Cover Story: Bert and Ernie’s ‘Moment of Joy’" (Françoise Mouly, Mina Kaneko • New Yorker • Jun 2013) [9:00] "David Remnick Looks Back on Tough Decisions as ‘The New Yorker’ Turns 90" (Fresh Air • Feb 2015) [11:15] "Going the Distance" (New Yorker • Jan 2014) [15:00] The Bridge: The Life and Rise of Barack Obama (Vintage Books • 2010) [15:15] "Soul Survivor" (New Yorker • Apr 2016) [17:15] The New Yorker Radio Hour [25:00] "Sending Smoke Signals to Our Former Editor in Chief" (Justin C

Christian Miller, senior investigative reporter at ProPublica, and Ken Armstrong, staff writer at The Marshall Project, co-wrote the Pulitzer-winning article, “An Unbelievable Story of Rape.” “I won’t forget this: when T. and I talked on the phone and agreed that we were going to work on [“An Unbelievable Story of Rape”] together, T. created a Google Drive site, and we decided we’d both dump all our documents in it. And I remember seeing all the records that T. had gathered in Colorado, and then I dumped all the records that I had gathered in Washington, and it was like each of us had half of a phenomenal story. And in one day, by dumping our notes into a common file, we suddenly had a whole story.” Thanks to MailChimp, Squarespace, and Trunk Club for sponsoring this week's episode. @txtianmiller Miller on Longform @bykenarmstrong bykenarmstrong.com Armstrong on Longform ProPublica The Marshall Project [:30] "An Unbelievable Story of Rape" (ProPublica, The Marshall Project • Dec 2015) [05:30] Joe Sexton on

Jack Hitt contributes to Harper’s, The New York Times Magazine, and This American Life. “I’ve always lived more or less unemployed in these markets, and happily so. I think being unemployed keeps you a little more sharp in terms of looking for stories. It never gets any easier. That motivation and that desperation, whatever you want to call that, is still very much behind many of the conversations I have all day long trying to find those threads, those strings, that are going to pull together and turn into something.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @JackHitt Hitt on Longform [1:15] Episode #157: Margo Jefferson [1:30] Episode #129: Rukmini Callimachi [1:30] Episode #156: Renata Adler [3:15] "This Is Your Brain on God" (Wired • Nov 1999) [3:45] "61: Fiasco!" (This American Life • Apr 1997) [4:00] Hitt's This American Life Archive [4:30] "323: The Super" (This American Life • Jan 2007) [6:15] "The Billion-Dollar Shack" (New York Times Magazine • Dec 2000) [6

Kathryn Schulz is a staff writer for The New Yorker. "The Really Big One," her article about the rupturing of the Cascadia fault line, won the 2016 Pulitzer Prize. “I can tell you in absolute sincerity: I didn't realize I was writing a scary story. Obviously I know the earthquake is going to be terrifying, and that our lack of preparedness is genuinely really scary. But, as I think often happens as a reporter, you toggle between professional happiness, which is sometimes, frankly, even professional glee—you’re just so thrilled you’re getting what you’re getting—and then the sort of more human and humane response, which comes every time you really set down your pen and think about what it is you’re actually reporting about.” Thanks to MailChimp and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @kathrynschulz Schulz on Longform [04:15] Schulz’s book criticism for New York [07:45] Grist [08:15] "The Really Big One" (New Yorker • Jul 2015) [29:15] "Citizen Khan" (New Yorker • Jun 2016) [33:15] Being Wrong: A

Shane Bauer, a senior reporter for Mother Jones, spent four months working undercover as a guard in a private prison. “The thing that I grappled with the most afterward was a feeling of shame about who I was as a guard and some of the things that I had done. Sending people to solitary confinement is hard to come to terms with even though, in that situation, I don't know what else I could have done. ... I had to do what I could to keep myself safe.” Thanks to MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. @shane_bauer shanebauer.net Bauer on Longform [7:00] ABC News v. Food Lion [7:45] Newjack: Guarding Sing-Sing (Ted Conover • Vintage • 2000) [19:30] "Solitary in Iran Nearly Broke Me. Then I Went Inside America's Prisons." (Mother Jones • Oct 2012) [46:30] "The Man Inside" (Reveal • June 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Frank Rich, a former culture and political columnist for The New York Times, writes for New York and is the executive producer of Veep. “All audiences bite back. If you have an opinion—forget about whether it’s theater or politics. If it’s about sports, fashion, or food—it doesn’t really matter. Readers are gonna bite back. And they should, you know? Everyone’s entitled. Everyone’s a critic. Everyone should have an opinion. You’re not laying down the law, and people should debate it.” Thanks to MailChimp and Casper for sponsoring this week's episode. @frankrichny Rich on Longform [2:00] Hot Seat: Theater Criticism for The New York Times, 1980-1993 (Random House • 1998) [13:30] "The Gay Decades" (Esquire • Nov 1987) [sub req'd] [15:45] Rich’s Archive at The New York Times [17:30] Rich’s Archive at The Harvard Crimson [18:15] Beacon School Newspaper [21:45] "What the Donald Shares With the Ronald" (New York • Jun 2016) [21:30] "No Matter What Trump Says or Does the GOP Will Never Abandon Him" (New York • Jun

Louisa Thomas, a former writer and editor at Grantland, is a New Yorker contributor and the author of Louisa. Her father Evan Thomas, a longtime writer for Newsweek and Time, is the author of several award-winning books, including last year's Being Nixon. “That's one thing I've learned from my dad: the capacity to be open to becoming more open.” Thanks to MailChimp's Freddie and Co. for sponsoring this bonus episode. Show Notes: @louisahthomas louisathomas.com Louisa Thomas on Longform [:30] Louisa: The Extraordinary Life of Mrs. Adams (Penguin • 2016) [8:30] "James Reston a Giant of Journalism, Dies at 86" (R.W. Apple • New York Times • Dec 1995) [10:00] Longform Podcast #168: Ta-Nehisi Coates [16:30] "Adventures in Wonderlawn: Living the Surreal Life at Wimbledon" (Louisa Thomas • Grantland • July 2015) [25:30] "Clinton and the Intern" (Evan Thomas and Michael Isikoff • Newsweek • Feb 1998) [30:30] "Newsweek Kills Story on White House Intern" (Drudge Report • Jan 1998) [40:30] Being Nixon: A Man Divided

Nikole Hannah-Jones covers civil rights for The New York Times Magazine. “I don’t think there’s any beat you can cover in America that race is not intertwined with—environment, politics, business, housing, you name it. So, whatever beat you put me on, this is what I was going to cover because I think it’s just intrinsic. If you’re not being blind to what’s on your beat, then it’s part of the beat.” Thanks to MailChimp's Freddie and Co., Audible, and Trunk Club for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: @nhannahjones nikolehannahjones.com Hannah-Jones on Longform [3:00] "Choosing a School for My Daughter in a Segregated City" (New York Times Magazine • Jun 2016) [09:00] "562: The Problem We All Live With" (This American Life • Jul 2015) [09:00] "School Segregation, the Continuing Tragedy of Ferguson" (ProPublica • Dec 2014) [17:30] "Segregation Now" (ProPublica • Apr 2014) [18:15] Hannah-Jones's archive at The Oregonian [21:00] "512: House Rules" (This American Life • Nov 2013) [31:17] The Atlanta Jou

Jon Favreau, former chief speechwriter for President Obama, is a columnist at The Ringer and co-host of Keepin’ It 1600. “And then Obama comes over to my desk with the speech, and he has a few edits. And he’s like, ‘I just want to go through some of these edits and make sure you’re ok with this. I did this for this reason. Are you ok with that?’ And I’m like, ‘Yeah, buddy. You’re Barack Obama.’” Thanks to MailChimp's Freddie and Co., Freshbooks, Audible, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: @jonfavs [1:00] Keepin’ It 1600 [1:00] Favreau’s Ringer Archive [5:00] "Ep. 75: Jon Favreau and Dan Pfeiffer" (The Bill Simmons Podcast • Apr 2016) [6:00] Favreau's 2003 Holy Cross commencement speech (College of the Holy Cross • May 2003) [13:00] "John Kerry’s 2004 concession speech" (YouTube) [15:00] Obama's 2004 DNC Convention speech (YouTube) [17:00] Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (Three Rivers Press • 1995) [22:00] Obama's 2005 commencement address at Knox College

Leah Finnegan, a former New York Times and Gawker editor, is the managing news editor at Genius. “After the Condé Nast article, Nick Denton decided Gawker needed to be 20% nicer, and I took a buyout because I was not 20% nicer.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, Squarespace, and Trunk Club for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: @leahfinnegan leahfinnegan.com genius.com/Leah [02:00] "Sunk" (Mitch Moxley • Atavist Magazine • May 2016) [05:00] Alec Baldwin’s Blog at The Huffington Post [05:00] The Daily Texan [07:00] "Top 10 Hipster Schools" (Huffington Post • Jun 2010) [13:00] News Genius [17:00] "The ‘Food Babe’ Blogger Is Full of Shit" (Yvette d’Entremont • Gawker • Apr 2015) [25:00] "This post has been removed." (Gawker • Jul 2015) [28:00] "Louis C.K. Will Call You Up to Talk About His Alleged Sexual Misconduct" (Jordan Sargent • Defamer • May 2015) [28:00] "Fred Armisen Has a Reputation" (Jordan Sargent • Gawker • Jan 2015) [29:00] "An Open Letter From Dylan Farrow" (Dylan Farrow •New York Times •

Pablo Torre is a senior writer at ESPN the Magazine and frequently appears on Around the Horn, PTI, and other ESPN shows. “Most of my friends are not sports fans. My parents aren't. Brother and sister — no. So I just want to make things that they want to read. That's the big litmus test for me in deciding if a story is worth investing my time into: Is somebody who doesn’t give a shit about sports gonna be interested in this?” Thanks to MailChimp, Johnson & Johnson, FreshBooks, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: @PabloTorre Pablog Torre on Longform [07:00] Torre’s Harvard Crimson Archive [11:00] "Fuck It We’ll Do It Live!" (YouTube) [12:00] First Take [12:00] "Raissman: Who will be Stephen A. Smith’s next foil on ESPN" (Bob Raissman • New York Daily News • Apr 2016) [17:00] The Longform Guide to Nurses [21:00] A Voice Crying in the Wilderness (Tony Kornheiser • Sports Illustrated • Apr 1983) [23:00] Around the Horn [25:00] "How (and Why) Athletes Go Broke" (Sports Illustrated •

Robin Marantz Henig, the author of nine books, writes about science and medicine for The New York Times Magazine. “I have my moments of thinking, ‘Well, why is this still so hard? Why do I still have to prove myself after all this time?’ If I were in a different field, or if I were even on a staff, I’d have a title that gave me more respect. I still have to wait just as long as any other writer to get any kind of response to a pitch. I still have to pitch. Nothing is automatic, even after all these years of working at this.” Thanks to MailChimp, Johnson & Johnson, and Audible. Show Notes: @robinhenig robinhenig.com Henig on Longform [2:00] "The Mastermind" (Evan Ratliff • The Atavist Magazine • Mar 2016) [06:00] Vaginal Politics (Quadrangle Books • 1972) [12:00] Writer’s Market 2016: The Most Trusted Guide to Getting Published (Robert Lee Brewer • Writer’s Digest Books • 2015) [17:00] The Longform Guide to Nurses [16:00] The Myth of Senility: The Truth About the Brain and Aging (Anchor Press • 1981) [18:0

Seymour Hersh is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and the author of The Killing of Osama Bin Laden. “The government had denied everything we said. We just asked them and they said, ‘Oh no, not true, not true.’ That’s just—it’s all pro forma. You ask them to get their lie and you write their lie. I’m sorry to be so cynical about it, but that’s basically what it comes to.” Thanks to MailChimp, Johnson & Johnson, Freshbooks, Trunk Club, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: Hersh on Longform [2:00] The Killing of Osama Bin Laden (Verso • 2016) [15:00] "The My Lai Massacre" (St. Louis Post-Dispatch • Nov 1969) [15:00] "The Scene of the Crime" (New Yorker • Mar 2015) [21:00] "Defending the Arsenal" (New Yorker • Nov 2009) [22:00] "The Deal" (New Yorker • Mar 2004) [27:00] "Whose Sarin?" (London Review of Books • Dec 2013) [28:00] "The Red Line and the Rat Line" (London Review of Books • Apr 2014) [33:00] "The Killing of Osama bin Laden" (London Review of Books • May 2015) [36:00] Z

Kelly McEvers, a former war correspondent, hosts NPR's All Things Considered and the podcast Embedded. “Listeners want you to be real, a real person. Somebody who stumbles and fails sometimes. I think the more human you are, the more people can then relate to you. The whole point is not so everybody likes me, but it’s so people will want to take my hand and come along. It's so they feel like they trust me enough to come down the road with me. To do that, I feel like you need to be honest and transparent about what that road’s like.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: @kellymcevers McEvers on Longform [02:00] "How It Ends" (Lenny • Apr 2016) [06:00] "Diary of a Bad Year: A War Correspondent’s Dilemma" (Transom • Jun 2013) [08:00] "The Capital" (Embedded • Apr 2016) [25:00] Friday Was the Bomb: Five Years in the Middle East (Nathan Deuel • Disquiet • 2014) [28:00] All Things Considered [38:00] Embedded [39:00] Marketplace [42:00] "The Fight for the F

Evan Ratliff, a co-host of the Longform Podcast, discusses"The Mastermind,” his new 7-part serialized story in The Atavist Magazine. “On several occasions [sources] didn’t want to go into the details of how they were identified. They were just like, ‘My safety is in your hands. Just be careful.’ And I didn’t really know what to do with that. I was sort of trying to balance what to include and what not to include and trying to make these decisions. Will Paul Le Roux know it’s this person? It’s impossible to know. I tried to err on the side of caution, but there’s no ethics hotline you can call and be like, ‘What do I do in this situation?’”   Thanks to our friends at MailChimpfor making today's episode possible. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Susie Cagle is a journalist and illustrator. “I don’t really know what it was that made me not quit. I still kind of wonder that. There have been many times over the last couple of years even, as things are taking off in my career, things are going well, I’m writing about wonderful things that are interesting to me, and I still wonder—should I be doing this? What the hell is next year gonna look like?” Thanks to MailChimp, FreshBooks, and AlarmGrid for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: @susie_c susie-c.tumblr.com [10:00] Cagle’s Curbed San Francisco Archive [21:00] "The Free and the Antifree" (n+1 Editors • n+1 • Fall 2014) [21:00] "Freedom Isn’t Antifree; Responding to Privilege"(with Manjula Martin • n+1 • Winter 2015) [22:00] Who Pays Writers? [30:00] "Is Wall Street Making a Killing off Cities’ Debt?" (Next City • Oct 2014) [34:00] "Cartoonist Susie Cagle on Her Tear Gassing and Arrest While Covering Occupy Oakland" (Laura Hudson • Comics Alliance • Nov 2011) [36:00] "Ledger #1: Spreadsheets