California Groundbreakers

Travel is bouncing back, but there’s still plenty we don’t know about how the pandemic -- and new variants of the coronavirus -- will play out, either here in California or overseas. And those big unknowns are still dramatically shaping the future of travel. We talk with two California-based travel experts who have been on the road this year about what to expect for local, domestic and international travel, what’s quickly going back to normal, what may be changing permanently, and what’s still to be determined. GUESTS * Julia Cosgrove, vice president and editor in chief of Afar Media (https://www.afar.com) * Hugh Garvey, editor in chief of Sunset Publishing (https://www.sunset.com) PODCAST PLAY-BY-PLAY * 0 to min - Intro to California Groundbreakers, and this episode * 5:25 min - How the pandemic has changed travel trends and people's preferences since shutdown started * 11:10 min - What travel in California looks like now * 16:50 min - How shortages (i.e., rental cars, restaurant employees) are going to