1869, The Cornell University Press Podcast

Learn more about the book: https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501766657/the-made-up-state/ Read the transcript: https://otter.ai/u/O18-V2EdVKo5Rz5eblyrDU9DTM0?utm_source=copy_url In this episode, we speak with Benjamin Hegarty, author of The Made-Up State: Technology, Trans Femininity, and Citizenship in Indonesia. Benjamin Hegarty is McKenzie Postdoctoral Fellow in Anthropology and Development Studies at the University of Melbourne and a Research Fellow at the HIV AIDS Research Center for Health Policy and Social Innovation, Atma Jaya Catholic University. He has published articles in the Journal of Asian Studies, Transgender Studies Quarterly, and elsewhere. We spoke to Benjamin about the complexity of transgender rights during this time of growing visibility in the United States, Indonesia, and globally, the historical relationship in Indonesia between race and gender and how they were governed through regulations on dress and appearance, and the culturally sanctioned areas of public life that